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	<title>Comments on: A Statement from Sony on Gran Turismo 5 Prologue</title>
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	<description>We're not PlayStation but we sometimes get to speak to them</description>
	<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 05:31:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Zed Zee</title>
		<link>http://threespeech.com/blog/2008/03/a-statement-from-sony-on-gran-turismo-5-prologue/comment-page-2/#comment-166824</link>
		<dc:creator>Zed Zee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Mar 2008 00:22:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ reakt (78):

If you're happy to continue overpaying for a digital download, then be my guest.  I suspect others, will not fall for that. Others will want a user manual for the game to immerse themselves even further and read up on driving tips etc. etc. etc.

I don't think the comfy sofa excuse is good enough, in my opinion - it sounds lazy to me and I don't agree with that.  Since when has laziness kicked in, considering 99.95% of PS3 games is STILL on some form of physical disc or another?! Let alone the previous gens (PS2/PS1) being completely reliant on disc storage for their games.

All of a sudden, the prospect of not getting up from your sofa has become trendy/the norm?  Poppycock!

So, no, I can't subscribe to that as a valid point.  Whereas the puny HDD space provided on Sony's PS3 consoles is valid as an argument to say, before you know it, you'll need to upgrade your HDD to cope with all the demos, on-line games and purchased digital games you've downloaded from PSN, let alone Home, game-saves, wallpapers etc.

I mean, the GT5P download is about 2GB, I've heard, that's 5% already gone with just one game download!

Your analogy with Heinz ketchup merely demonstrates that Sony is providing their 'tomato ketchup' (GT5P download) directly into your cupped hands, as opposed to someone buying it in a glass or dispensing bottle.

That's not right or fair.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ reakt (78):</p>
<p>If you&#8217;re happy to continue overpaying for a digital download, then be my guest.  I suspect others, will not fall for that. Others will want a user manual for the game to immerse themselves even further and read up on driving tips etc. etc. etc.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think the comfy sofa excuse is good enough, in my opinion - it sounds lazy to me and I don&#8217;t agree with that.  Since when has laziness kicked in, considering 99.95% of PS3 games is STILL on some form of physical disc or another?! Let alone the previous gens (PS2/PS1) being completely reliant on disc storage for their games.</p>
<p>All of a sudden, the prospect of not getting up from your sofa has become trendy/the norm?  Poppycock!</p>
<p>So, no, I can&#8217;t subscribe to that as a valid point.  Whereas the puny HDD space provided on Sony&#8217;s PS3 consoles is valid as an argument to say, before you know it, you&#8217;ll need to upgrade your HDD to cope with all the demos, on-line games and purchased digital games you&#8217;ve downloaded from PSN, let alone Home, game-saves, wallpapers etc.</p>
<p>I mean, the GT5P download is about 2GB, I&#8217;ve heard, that&#8217;s 5% already gone with just one game download!</p>
<p>Your analogy with Heinz ketchup merely demonstrates that Sony is providing their &#8216;tomato ketchup&#8217; (GT5P download) directly into your cupped hands, as opposed to someone buying it in a glass or dispensing bottle.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s not right or fair.</p>
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		<title>By: reakt</title>
		<link>http://threespeech.com/blog/2008/03/a-statement-from-sony-on-gran-turismo-5-prologue/comment-page-2/#comment-166783</link>
		<dc:creator>reakt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 22:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Zed Zee - That's what I thought - "why bother with the downloaded version when I can have a hard copy?"  Then somebody pointed out to me that with the hard copy, you always need to have the disk in the drive in order to play it (of course).  It would be convenient to have it just there on my HDD - like WarHawk is!  I think WarHawk is the game I play the most - partly because I love it, but also because I don't need to leave my comfy sofa in order to switch over to it after playing another game.  Also, if the downloaded content on the HDD is damaged, or in fact the HDD itself is damaged, then the content can be downloaded again.  It's a pain in the ar*e to have to download all of your PSN store purchases again (as I've had to do this I know only too well) but it is do-able.

As for the price difference.  Perhaps SCEE might have liked to offer GT for a lower price.  But this would have made them undercut their retail outlets.  At least that's what I would guess.  Who knows.  So anyway, SCEE are offering the downloadable version for the same price.  It costs them less to distribute it (plus there's no manufacturing cost).  It's the same price as the retail version and the consumer get the added convenience of being able to play it without a Blu-ray disk in the drive.  It might sound a con but it's a bit like tomato ketchup!  Millimetre for millimetre it's far cheaper to buy a Heinz ketchup in a glass bottle as opposed to a squeezable plastic bottle.  Of course glass costs more to manufacture and distribute (since it's heavier).  The plastic bottle version offers an advantage to the consumer in the way it dispenses the product.  Anyway that's enough nonsense for now.  My GT5 break is over and it's back to the action!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Zed Zee - That&#8217;s what I thought - &#8220;why bother with the downloaded version when I can have a hard copy?&#8221;  Then somebody pointed out to me that with the hard copy, you always need to have the disk in the drive in order to play it (of course).  It would be convenient to have it just there on my HDD - like WarHawk is!  I think WarHawk is the game I play the most - partly because I love it, but also because I don&#8217;t need to leave my comfy sofa in order to switch over to it after playing another game.  Also, if the downloaded content on the HDD is damaged, or in fact the HDD itself is damaged, then the content can be downloaded again.  It&#8217;s a pain in the ar*e to have to download all of your PSN store purchases again (as I&#8217;ve had to do this I know only too well) but it is do-able.</p>
<p>As for the price difference.  Perhaps SCEE might have liked to offer GT for a lower price.  But this would have made them undercut their retail outlets.  At least that&#8217;s what I would guess.  Who knows.  So anyway, SCEE are offering the downloadable version for the same price.  It costs them less to distribute it (plus there&#8217;s no manufacturing cost).  It&#8217;s the same price as the retail version and the consumer get the added convenience of being able to play it without a Blu-ray disk in the drive.  It might sound a con but it&#8217;s a bit like tomato ketchup!  Millimetre for millimetre it&#8217;s far cheaper to buy a Heinz ketchup in a glass bottle as opposed to a squeezable plastic bottle.  Of course glass costs more to manufacture and distribute (since it&#8217;s heavier).  The plastic bottle version offers an advantage to the consumer in the way it dispenses the product.  Anyway that&#8217;s enough nonsense for now.  My GT5 break is over and it&#8217;s back to the action!</p>
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		<title>By: Zed Zee</title>
		<link>http://threespeech.com/blog/2008/03/a-statement-from-sony-on-gran-turismo-5-prologue/comment-page-2/#comment-166535</link>
		<dc:creator>Zed Zee</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 13:32:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Just buy it in the shops or get it from an on-line store. Do not support extortionate on-line prices, when you get more for your money (and save precious HDD space) buying the physical product.

It'll be cheaper as well (don't pay Â£25 for it!) AND you get the packaging, guide and physical disc, rather than praying the PS3's HHD never experiences CRC Errors when little Johnny accidentally hits it with his walker...etc.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Just buy it in the shops or get it from an on-line store. Do not support extortionate on-line prices, when you get more for your money (and save precious HDD space) buying the physical product.</p>
<p>It&#8217;ll be cheaper as well (don&#8217;t pay Â£25 for it!) AND you get the packaging, guide and physical disc, rather than praying the PS3&#8217;s HHD never experiences CRC Errors when little Johnny accidentally hits it with his walker&#8230;etc.</p>
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		<title>By: reakt</title>
		<link>http://threespeech.com/blog/2008/03/a-statement-from-sony-on-gran-turismo-5-prologue/comment-page-2/#comment-166445</link>
		<dc:creator>reakt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Mar 2008 10:47:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>boo hoo you babies!  ;-) 
It's up now and in time for the weekend!  
To the cynics that thought that the delay was due to some sinister plan of Sony's to keep the retailers happy.  - You were wrong.  Otherwise Sony would have allowed the retailers to have exclusivity on Saturday as well (that being the busiest shopping-day of the week).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>boo hoo you babies!  <img src='http://threespeech.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
It&#8217;s up now and in time for the weekend!<br />
To the cynics that thought that the delay was due to some sinister plan of Sony&#8217;s to keep the retailers happy.  - You were wrong.  Otherwise Sony would have allowed the retailers to have exclusivity on Saturday as well (that being the busiest shopping-day of the week).</p>
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		<title>By: terrortime</title>
		<link>http://threespeech.com/blog/2008/03/a-statement-from-sony-on-gran-turismo-5-prologue/comment-page-2/#comment-166155</link>
		<dc:creator>terrortime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:44:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ow i understand,
so if SCEE first pro-misses to give the PSN store a head-start,
while the games where in the store in Wednesday, meaning promiss=Tuesday in PSN

SCEE "Excuses" themselves and put it in the store on friday

where are our discounts????
Warhawk in the Us for 29,99$!!!!!!! is nothing more than 20â‚¬  again not 29â‚¬</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ow i understand,<br />
so if SCEE first pro-misses to give the PSN store a head-start,<br />
while the games where in the store in Wednesday, meaning promiss=Tuesday in PSN</p>
<p>SCEE &#8220;Excuses&#8221; themselves and put it in the store on friday</p>
<p>where are our discounts????<br />
Warhawk in the Us for 29,99$!!!!!!! is nothing more than 20â‚¬  again not 29â‚¬</p>
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		<title>By: allwrighte</title>
		<link>http://threespeech.com/blog/2008/03/a-statement-from-sony-on-gran-turismo-5-prologue/comment-page-2/#comment-166140</link>
		<dc:creator>allwrighte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 22:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Does anyone think that Sony need and equivalent 'major nelson' at times like this? We get left in the dark quite a bit here and I think its time we had an official figure head to talk to / provide us with info?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Does anyone think that Sony need and equivalent &#8216;major nelson&#8217; at times like this? We get left in the dark quite a bit here and I think its time we had an official figure head to talk to / provide us with info?</p>
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		<title>By: Mister_G</title>
		<link>http://threespeech.com/blog/2008/03/a-statement-from-sony-on-gran-turismo-5-prologue/comment-page-2/#comment-166060</link>
		<dc:creator>Mister_G</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:33:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Now it's updated will Sony work out what went wrong and stop it ever happening again?

I know it wasn't the end of the world (I got my copy of GT5P yesterday from shopto.net :D) but it doesn't look good, especially to prospective PS3 owners,  it could put them right off in fact.

Anyhoo,  all well that's end well   :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now it&#8217;s updated will Sony work out what went wrong and stop it ever happening again?</p>
<p>I know it wasn&#8217;t the end of the world (I got my copy of GT5P yesterday from shopto.net :D) but it doesn&#8217;t look good, especially to prospective PS3 owners,  it could put them right off in fact.</p>
<p>Anyhoo,  all well that&#8217;s end well   <img src='http://threespeech.com/blog/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jimmy</title>
		<link>http://threespeech.com/blog/2008/03/a-statement-from-sony-on-gran-turismo-5-prologue/comment-page-2/#comment-166052</link>
		<dc:creator>Jimmy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 19:21:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's true, Sony might start charging more for everything and start giving us below par service if we start moaning.......oh wait.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s true, Sony might start charging more for everything and start giving us below par service if we start moaning&#8230;&#8230;.oh wait.</p>
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		<title>By: shane</title>
		<link>http://threespeech.com/blog/2008/03/a-statement-from-sony-on-gran-turismo-5-prologue/comment-page-2/#comment-166014</link>
		<dc:creator>shane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:22:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I find that these "rants" are far more hostile than they need to be.  The discontentment is resoundingly clear.  There are, however, people from all around the world represented here in this forum.  I don't believe that every UK PS3 owner is as antagonistic as majority of these posts seem to show... but... that is the image which is being formed (at least from my perspective) and it may not be exactly what you want yourselves to be perceived as being.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I find that these &#8220;rants&#8221; are far more hostile than they need to be.  The discontentment is resoundingly clear.  There are, however, people from all around the world represented here in this forum.  I don&#8217;t believe that every UK PS3 owner is as antagonistic as majority of these posts seem to show&#8230; but&#8230; that is the image which is being formed (at least from my perspective) and it may not be exactly what you want yourselves to be perceived as being.</p>
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		<title>By: monkeymajiks</title>
		<link>http://threespeech.com/blog/2008/03/a-statement-from-sony-on-gran-turismo-5-prologue/comment-page-2/#comment-165982</link>
		<dc:creator>monkeymajiks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Mar 2008 18:04:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@53 GAME own GAMESATION, so UK is a total monopoly now anyway!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@53 GAME own GAMESATION, so UK is a total monopoly now anyway!</p>
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